Published on July 16, 2008 By Artysim In Current Events

So now restaurants in New York have to post the calorie counts of the food they're selling. As of friday, if they don't post these counts, they face a $ 2,000.0 fine. While many folks cry foul on the part of the evil government interfering with private business, I personally think this is absolutely wonderful!

Why? Because as a consumer, you should have the RIGHT to know what you're getting, especially when you're consuming it. Food isn't some consumer bauble that you buy for kicks, you actually need it to survive and so you should be given pertinent information on just what exactly you're buying.

The whole article is here, which I highly recommend you take a read;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25464987/

Not surprisingly, many folks are utterly shocked at the calories packed into most restaurant food out there. In the article it states that many muffins and cookies at coffee shops contain upwards of 600 calories. That means if you were to eat 4 such cookies that'd be 2400 calories which is the average requirement for an adult in an entire day! Many consumers have remarked that it's no wonder obesity and overweight related issues and illnesses are so common in our society... because we're being overfed (and consequently) undernourished.

Further, it's not like we're asking the restaurant industry to dissect every detail about the food. We're not asking for sodium counts or cholesterol content, just plain old calories. The most basic yardstick a person can use to make an on the fly decision.

One thing I particularly enjoyed reading about was the shock many folks had when learning the calorie counts of many of the "healthy option" foods at restaurants.

The pecan-chicken salad at TGI Friday's packs more than 1300 calories, more than half of an adults entire daily requirements! And it's even more calories than their cheeseburger-and-fries option!

Other gems are many of the options at several franchise steakhouses, with some items going over 2,000 calories and desserts upwards of 1,500 calories. That's in a single serving. I suppose if you're only having one meal in the entire day you'd be good to go off of that, but that is not the case for most of us.

Every year nearly 300,000 people in America die of obesity and overweight related illnesses. Enacting a law that forces restaurants to inform their customers just exactly what they're putting into their bodies is indeed a step in the right direction!


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on Jul 17, 2008
True, but consumers also have the right to educate themselves to make informed choices


THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!

How do you magically know what is in a given dish at a specific restaurant? How do you educate yourself when the information is withheld?

How many calories are in the fettucine at Fancy Pants Bistro?

Lean Cuisine fettucine is 290 calories/serving. California Pizza Kitchen's Chicken Tequila Fettucine has 500 calories/serving. Olive Garden's Fettucine Alfredo has 850 calories/serving (that's the lunch entree...how many servings are in the dinner entree?). The Fettucine Alfredo at Macaroni Grill has 1130 calories/serving.

Wow...Fettucine can range from 290 cal/serving to 1130 (and up!)? Hmmmm....so how do I go about guessing how many calories are in the Fettucine Alfredo at Fancy Pants Bistro?

How do I inform myself? Do I guess that it's 290 and eat more than 1,000 more calories that day? Do I guess that it's 1130 and just chew gum all day? Do I eat half a portion instead? What should I count that as?

Don't I have a right to know what I'm eating? I get to know what's in the deodorant I put in my arm pits and what's in the shampoo I lather my hair with, but I shouldn't be allowed to know what is going into my body?

It's not a new thing for the government to insist that companies label the contents of their products. That's consumer protection.

Dr. Guy, I don't have a lab at home where I can test foods to determine the caloric values. Do you?

on Jul 17, 2008
Dr. Guy, I don't have a lab at home where I can test foods to determine the caloric values. Do you?


If caloric count is so important to you, cook your own. I missed the law mandating we eat out all the time.

If I am not calory counting, why should I pay for you habit?
on Jul 17, 2008

I believe it is a good thing for us to know what the calorie content of the food we eat is, period.  It does help us to make the right choices as well as to be informed and aware, nothing wrong with that!  Another thing is that now a days most people are becoming more aware of what they eat, definitely a good thing in the battle of obesity!

on Jul 17, 2008
If caloric count is so important to you, cook your own. I missed the law mandating we eat out all the time.

If I am not calory counting, why should I pay for you habit?


Why should I pay for you to know what the hell is in the groceries you buy?

What makes food sold in a restaurant different from food sold in store?
on Jul 17, 2008

I've always wanted them to be required to post their nutrition information. When I'm at the restaraunt, I never can find the nutrition information when I'm contemplating [insert exotic dish here]. Heck, I'm lucky to figure out the ingredients.

Granted, I don't eat well enough. I take a diet based more on how, rather than what I eat, and it works for me. (With no exercise, either, mind you)

on Jul 17, 2008

I think is a great idea. When I was a kid I worked as a prep cook in a seafood restaurant and let me tell you if 20,000 calorie an ounce concentrated fat made the food taste better they would lather that stuff on like gravy. There’s no thought whatsoever about how bad something is for you, taste, and you making out of the parking lot alive are the only considerations, and that’s wrong. They don’t have a right to quietly and slowly poison people. Dr. Guy is right also if you go out to eat you should be aware of this but out of sight out of mind. Even when we know it’s bad we only think it’s half as bad as it really is, most peoples jaw would drop if they knew how many calories are in some of this stuff.

I’ve found that you can cut the calories in half for most dishes with no loss of tastiness and if the calories are on the menu it would become at least a consideration for them. Quite a few restaurants have low fat versions of their dishes on the menu but no actual calorie count for ether. Most just say to themselves “I’m paying a premium how much more calories can the hi test version have”, well I think they should be told. 

on Jul 17, 2008

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!! How do you magically know what is in a given dish at a specific restaurant? How do you educate yourself when the information is withheld?


I think you missed the point actually. Fettucine Alfredo is Fettucine Alfredo no matter where you go. The difference is how the cook adds the ingredients. I seriously doubt that, unless made with low calorie ingredients, that Fettucine Alfredo will have major calorie count changes from restaurant to restaurant. If one restaurant says it has 325 calories, then chances are it will range between 300 and 350 betwen most restaurants. Again, if the ingredients used are of very low calories, they usually call it the "Lite" menu or some other catchy name. See my point?

If people actually cared about how many calories they consume a day, most major fast food chains, potatoe chip companies, candy bar companies, etc would be out of business. We are not a fat nation because we educate ourselves in calories but ignore them for the tasty food fast food places and most restaurants serve. We are because even thought the Media has drilled it into out daily lives how bad most of this food is most people just don't care enough since people are not dying left and right because of it. Hell, people don't even consider the possibilities of not only how bad this food can be fore you but the conditions of the kitchens making the food. A New York KFC was once found to be infested with rats, KFC is still alive and kicking. A lady sued Wendy's because she claimed to have found a rats head in her chilli, she won yet chilli remains of of Wendy's best sellers. I can go on but I'm sure you get the point.


Again i point out this is all about being lazy. We complain about our children not getting the proper education while in school yet we do everything we can to avoid learning things as adults. Maybe everyone should watch the movie Wall-E and take in what happened to the human race that had to leave Earth and llive in space till Earth was livable again. They all got fat and lazy. Fat because they go lazy. I wonder why? I also recommend Idiocracy and tell me that movie does not send chills up your spine that such a thing could be even remotely possible in real life.

on Jul 17, 2008

Damn, my spell chekc is not working. Hmm

on Jul 17, 2008

I think you missed the point actually. Fettucine Alfredo is Fettucine Alfredo no matter where you go. The difference is how the cook adds the ingredients. I seriously doubt that, unless made with low calorie ingredients, that Fettucine Alfredo will have major calorie count changes from restaurant to restaurant. If one restaurant says it has 325 calories, then chances are it will range between 300 and 350 betwen most restaurants. Again, if the ingredients used are of very low calories, they usually call it the "Lite" menu or some other catchy name. See my point?

Didn't Tex's post make it clear that different restaurants and portion sizes can have vastly different calorie counts? 

on Jul 18, 2008
Why should I pay for you to know what the hell is in the groceries you buy?

What makes food sold in a restaurant different from food sold in store?


Great point! 2 wrongs do not make a right.
on Jul 18, 2008
Didn't Tex's post make it clear that different restaurants and portion sizes can have vastly different calorie counts?


Again, portion sizes are not extremely different in most cases so calorie count will not be that extreme either. You guys/gals are knit picking small details here. A chicken breast is a chicken breast usually of the same size almost everywhere you go. Unless you get half a breast or more than 1 it's obvious the calories will go up and down accordingly. But do you really need a sign to tell you this? Even the ingredients such as a salad dressing, a BBQ sauce or a seasoning will not have drastic differences from restaurant to restaurant unless the cooks purposely use low calorie ingredients and again they usually announce it as a "Lite" menu.

If you wanna believe that 10, 20 or even 70 calories will make a huge difference to you then maybe, as DrGuy said, you should make your own food and don't eat out. Again, calorie conscious people do not eat out all the time knowing that chances are they will not be able to eat most of the stuff on a menu in most restaurants because they already did their homework.
on Jul 18, 2008
OMG Charles. Seriously.

It's not just portion size. Go re-read my post about different fettucine recipes.

You just never know what is going into something, and the calorie count can change DRAMATICALLY from one restaurant to another. Let me give you a clear example:

http://www.menshealth.com/20worst/worstffchicken.html

Chicken = chicken = chicken is simply not true. This is not nit-picky 10-20 calories difference between restaurants.

What was the chicken cooked in? What was it marinated in? What's it topped with? It's not just serving size you're looking at. The can be some serious hidden calories going on.

You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about cooking and calorie content. You keep talking about people needing to educate themselves. No offense, Charles, but you are woefully uninformed when it comes to the food you put in your body.

You say 10,20,70 calories will not make a huge difference. Do you realize that 70 calories too many, every day, for a year = 7.3 lbs gained in a year. Just from 70 extra calories. Over 5 years, that's 36.5 lbs!!

Some people sincerely do pay attention to calories and care about what they put in their bodies. And yes, these people eat at restaurants. It's not just fat slobs who eat out.

You CAN eat at a restaurant and still not overindulge if you are aware of the calories in the food selections.

PS - Often times, the "LITE" menu is anything but!

I would love it, Charles, if you could, off the top of your head -- no googling -- tell me how big a portion size is for a chicken breast. Can you do it? Don't cheat!

DrGuy: Heh, at least you're consistent. That's a rather drastic stance to take. Do you disagree with labels for things like hygiene items or medications?
on Jul 18, 2008
Do the research people. Use the Internet just to get an idea of how close the calories are in burgers from Burger King, McDonalds and Wendy's. The calorie count is so close you may as well ignore it. Chances are most products of the same type but different brands have calorie counts too close to even bother making a choice based on the numbers. It's all in the ingredients and even that does not change much from location to location either.
on Jul 18, 2008
Here's an example of what I mean:

Chicken Parmigiano:

Romano's Macaroni Grill - 1490 calories

The Olive Garden - 1300 calories

Red Robin - 1766 calories

All can be found on this site http://www.thedailyplate.com/

Great place to educate yourself if you actually care about the calories you consume daily.
on Jul 18, 2008
Charles, are you even paying attention?

The calories are NOT so close that you might as well ignore it. YOU think that because you've never bothered to check!

OMFG. You are going to make me pull my hair out. LOL.

Burgers:

Burger King Whopper - 680
Double Cheeseburger - 420
Steakhouse Burger - 950
Burger King burgers range from 290 (plain hamburger) to 1250 (Triple Whopper with Cheese) calories.

McDonalds Big and Tasty - 460
Big Mac - 540
Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese - 740
McDonalds burgers range from 250 (plain burger) to 740 (Dbl Quarter Pounder w/Cheese).

Wendys Snack Attack Burger - 380
Baconator - 840
Single w/Everything - 430
Wendys burgers range from 220 (kids hamburger) to 980 (Triple with Everything and Cheese).

Between those three places alone, there is a range of 220 calories to 1250 calories, just for 1 burger ALONE!! That doesn't even compare the chicken sandwiches!

And sit-down restaurants often have MUCH higher calorie counts for their food than even the fast food places.

Are you still going to try to tell me there's not that much difference?
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